Adam Meeting Record 2006
each meeting put date, people present (Adam and Jason unless noted otherwise), topics discussed, things to do for next time
Thursday 5th Jan
Adam, Jason Discussed: Interpretation of Goodman (pt 2). Yusuf, Collins, Peto paper on large simple RCT Tasks: More precision regarding how interpreting Goodman on wiki; Send Yusuf paper to JG
Wednesday 8th Feb
Adam, Jason Discussed: Peto - stuff; rofecoxib paper and presentation; jeffrey and exchangeability; bayesian trial design (adam’s problem) - need take design into account for both prior and bayes factor.
Wednesday 13th Feb
Adam, Jason Discussed: Power Point slides on rofecoxib — looking good; existence of paper on combining phase II/phase III trials in a Frequentist way (Royston, Parmar, Qian) Statistics in Medicine 2003;22:2239-2256
Tuesday 21 Feb
Adam, Jason Agenda: Jeffrey paper; statistical meaning of “bias” Discussed: Jeffrey review paper — probably don’t bother discussing Dorling in just a few words; instead give a few examples showing that this is only a good book for research, not for teaching; definition of “bias” is confusing; need to talk later about WHY people are confused about the meaning and (separately) the importance of bias To do: Jason to finish commenting on the wiki page on Peto et al; Adam to play with the definition of bias
Tuesday 28 Feb
Adam, Jason Agenda: bias; overall project planning Discussed: public health talk was a raging success; Jeffrey review almost done; bias To do: refresh project proposal using stuff on wiki; write a paper on rofocoxib; think about WiP seminar; write down some thoughts on bias while you can still see the duck
Tuesday 14 March
Adam, Jason Agenda: overall project planning; links between philosophy of probability and philosophy of science Discussed: as above; new project outline is great To do: look at Bas van Fraassen’s papers on his web site etc.; read Berger and Sellke
Wednesday 22 March
Adam, Jason Agenda: look at jeffrey rv and start of rofecoxib; discuss project plan Discussed: new experimentalism; metaphysical underpinning of the distinction between classical and bayesian stats. Remember Jason’s diagram separating statistical methods - AL and JG differing separation but similar divide; continue exploring the divide along beleif in fact-of-the-matter so use error statistics + new experimentalism and the variety of evidence relating to many (infinite) hypotheses of bayesianism. Consider how new experimentalism and bayesianism may fit together.
Wednesday 12 April
Adam, Jason Discussed: rofecoxib WIP seminar; current state of rofecoxib draft To do: keep going
Wednesday 3 May
Adam, Jason Discussed: rofecoxib To do: go back to meeting every week!
Wednesday 17 May
Adam, Jason Discussed: likelihood principle, Mayo’s argument regarding Armitage and whether the bayesian has a problem with sampling to foregone conclusions; and precisely when this is a problem for the bayesian, AAP abstract submission To do: talk this friday about general issues; follow up on Mayo/Armitage argument, send abstract ( Inferences From Medical Trials Should Be Probabilistic )
Friday 19 May
Adam, Jason Discussed: overall thesis plans and possibility of doing more straight philosophy; application for a Sydney scholarship To do: draft of Rof paper by end of May
Wednesday 24 May
Adam, Jason Discussed: details of Mayo’s view of Pearson and related issues To do: draft of Rof paper by end of May; a mathematical version or example of Mayo’s Pearson’s step 2 and how it relates to step 3; Jason to fix this bloody wiki program
Wednesday 31 May Adam, Mark, Jason, Rachael Discussed: overview of progress and plans
Thursday 1 June
Adam, Jason Discussed: Rofecoxib paper To do: deadline for draft moved to 15 June
Wednesday 7 June
Adam, Jason Discussed: Rofecoxib talk preparation (going very well) To do: give Rofecoxib talk; finish Rofecoxib draft paper
Wednesday 21 June
Adam, Jason Discussed: Rofecoxib draft paper, AAP talk — don’t add too much material for AAP, as philosophers expect you to go slowly To do: Jason to comment on draft paper; Adam to continue drafting and also work on AAP talk
Wednesday 12 July
Adam, Jason Discussed: congrats on AAP talk; Rofecoxib draft paper To do: Adam to continue drafting
Thursday 13 July
Adam, Jason Discussed: Rofecoxib draft paper To do: Adam to continue drafting
Tuesday 18 July
Rofecoxib draft paper coming along better, thanks to decision to more or less leave Mayo out of it; will probably do a separate Mayo paper subsequently. Sydney has offered a scholarship; just paperwork remains to be done. To do: Adam continue drafting
Friday 27 July
Invited to an important international conference. Well done! Paper progressing. Current conclusion: classical statistics can’t back up the inferences made in practice, even when they’re sensible. It (therefore?) can’t play the role it claims to play in EBM. To do: Think about p-value functions.
Thursday 7 September
Worrall has commented on Rofecoxib paper. To do: Jason to comment too!
Tuesday 21 November
Update on where various projects are up to. Currently completing presentation for Brussels; send for comment once done. On return finalise rofecoxib paper draft. Next project —EBM, what must it be if it is going to make sense (and what it is almost definitely not)
Monday 11 December
Economics/ethics paper presented in Europe: well done! Possible follow-ups from that: (a) think about future work with economists; (b) email Andrew Thingy. To do for the evidence workshop in January: think about presenting on (a) what EBM ought to be and/or (b) stuff about sub-studies case-control studies. Probably (a), but put in stuff you already know backwards if you’re having trouble thinking of enough to say about (a). To do otherwise: submit short rofecoxib paper.
Wednesday 20 December
Short rofecoxib paper submitted. Long rofecoxib paper new draft due soon. To do: finish next draft of rofecoxib paper.